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Amidst his various inventions and designs to further his massive sound
Tristan Shone shares more about his unique sonic vision with The Signal

ORBITER SIGNAL: Most musicians will advance their sound by developing unconventional ways of playing their traditional instrument. However, You have invented entirely new and unconventional instruments by modifying found machines and melding them with modern technology. What was your initial inspiration for this new aesthetic of sound?

AUTHOR & PUNISHER: First, I’d like to say that all of the instruments are made from raw materials; there are no found materials or machines integrated into anything. I come up with a concept, design and then fabricate from scratch. That being said, I am a mechanical engineer and have always had an interest in devices and robotics. I remember the first year at RPI (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute) where I went to school for engineering when I was 18, the classes were fine, but I went looking for a lab to work in on robotic devices. I ended up finding a mechatronics lab and convinced these PHDs to let my acne faced self to work on some of their projects. That really helped me and from then on I always worked in some sort of automation or mechatronic type lab while taking classes. So, while also playing in metal bands, Falkirk was the band at that time, a kind of Neurosis/Godflesh/Melvins/Meshuggah inspired doom band, these two things stewed for about 6 years without being combined. I worked for an artist Chris Csikszentmihaly (MIT Media Lab) on some projects in Boston, and eventually got bored with working for companies and decided to move to San Diego and study art at an engineering university, UCSD. In grad school I got into a lot more electronic dub and electronic and started to build speakers and explore a more DIY version of sound. I guess the deciding point for this aesthetic came after I finished a robotic sculpture for a show at the Scottsdale Museum of Contemporary Art; a kind of piece chronicling my negative attitude towards working in a cleanroom for a few years, and I felt very empty afterwards. I had made something that I couldn’t relate to or play with after completion. Likewise, I had stripped away my band and become a one-man band, guitar with laptop, which also seemed empty, lacking an organic live presence. From here I just decided that the best use of my time would be to build machines that I could interact with to make the heavy sounds I liked. The first was the Throttles, which was two bass throttles, each with motor force feedback, allowing me to battle with two simultaneous bass tones that I could crossover eachother and really experiment with their resonances.

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ORBITER SIGNAL: With such innovative modes of audio engineering and visceral performance elements your sound appeals to people from many genres. How do you describe the sound of your progressive musical style?

AUTHOR & PUNISHER: I think because this was a long process of natural development, I never really saw a difference from the newer sounding stuff with the Dub/Drone Machines and some of the more straight tempo industrial doom stuff I still make. However, from the outside and from a performance standpoint, lately I’ve begun to value the newer method of completely live, one-man performance (no sequenced material). The motions I coupled with these sounds were in my head for years: a drum machine sound, whether it was Cannibal Corpse, Meshuggah, or some Drum and Bass/Dubstep kicks, were always a mechanical motion of the body, and I made that into a hand slide, or fist pump. A textured and wavering bass sound that melted your face seemed sort of cheapened or weak as a plucked string; maybe as a Gibson 20 lb Les Paul, but an Ibanez? These sounds needed resistance and weight for me. So even though from I am making “machines”, they are really a very organic and human interface for me. Lately, as I get used to this setup, I am able to really use my body as a unit…I can change directions at any time and have everything fully on and the next moment be somewhere completely different: I am in really in control of everything which allows me to get downright spastic and still like what I am hearing.

ORBITER SIGNAL: Can you describe the color and shape of the sound you aspire toward?

AUTHOR & PUNISHER: I’d have to say no, hah. I aspire to make heavy, organic, full-sounding music. I don’t think I can attach it to a color or shape.

ORBITER SIGNAL: What are some concepts or inventions you are currently developing?

AUTHOR & PUNISHER: Well, this is always a concern: what are the future plans for machines! Well, I just made a bunch of these Big Knobs which are exactly that, large heavy map able knobs for controlling software parameters. What I like about these is they have detents and spring loaded plungers so they snap into position. This is something I want to explore. Having a range of instruments that are more quantized, that click into place almost machine like but with a human midi clock, is something I would like to explore. Of course, I have a huge amount of work to do in terms of touring with the new machines and recording sometime this year. Also, my first to-do item right now is to finish the new speakers I designed with a friend of mine, artist Matt Hope, now based in Beijing. These are very high end CNC machined full range touring speakers we have been designing for over a year now that I need to finish building.

ORBITER SIGNAL: Is it more exciting for you to design and create the machines and hear them come to life then it is to write and arrange compositions?

AUTHOR & PUNISHER: I think they are all equally exciting, but I will say writing and arranging compositions is more difficult because I have to sit in one place at my studio for a long time and avoid the temptation of the bbq and beer sitting at our warehouse. Once everything is setup in the space, I end up spending a lot of time just playing dubstep and various mixes through the sound system and enjoying myself. Eventually, usually late at night I get into a groove and can really find myself in the zone. Designing, building, and fabricating, is very easy since I am always moving from task to task, listening to music, interacting with fabricators or machining etc. It’s when I have to stop moving that it’s difficult, I think I got that disease from my father.

ORBITER SIGNAL: How would you feel if you walked into a concert hall one day and everyone was performing utilizing machines of your design?

AUTHOR & PUNISHER: Jesus, I don’t know, I mean it would be an honor, but I have such a personal relationship to these that I honestly can’t picture it yet! I think it’s the same feeling as collaborating, I am not ready for it. I have a projection for the energy level and quality of sound that I am searching for and I feel like I need to keep at what I am doing and not get distracted with other people and things. I did recently get in touch with some dubstep producers about utilizing some machines in their live set, so I think that might be a start in that direction.

ORBITER SIGNAL: I noticed there seemed to be buttons on the handle of one of your machines. This would suggest that not only are you using all of your available limbs and voice to generate tone, but each of your fingertips are also triggering samples. If you could please walk us through each element of your setup and explain how you’re capable of achieving such a full dynamic auditory experience by optimizing your full range of motion.

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AUTHOR & PUNISHER: Ok, I’ll go through the newer setup with what I call the Dub Machines. For both sets of machines, I have controlled the main rhythm section with my right hand and arm. There is a linear encoder strip that reads the position all the time and there are buttons on the handle. Using an Arduino USB programmable microcontroller I am able to program in different options, meaning different midi outputs occur if say button 1 and 3 are pressed and the slide is at the front. I can also have the back and forth motion control a software knob. The sounds are set in software. I should say, there are endless options as to how these “black box” instruments are programmed…they are not just triggers, they are continuous, high resolution inputs for software. Continuing…also attached to the Rails rhythm controller I have a foot pedal often used for reverb level and a Big Knob for whatever strikes my fancy.

Next I use the Rack & Pinion bi-level sliding keyboard for my synth bass (4 total bass synths running simultaneously). These are adjustable so that 2 keys can be right on top of each other so that separate sounds of the same pitch can be slid along together…this gives me some dynamic. There are no labels for pitch, I pretty much just learned where they were, much like on a violin. There are 4 Big Knobs clamped onto the top Rack for all sorts of modulation. The Rack also works with linear encoders and programmable microcontrollers.

The Headgear is my 8 channel microphone (featured in this issue of Make Magazine as a DIY) that wraps around my mouth. This is kind of like a harmonica (could also be mounted on my body like a Neil Young Harmonica, but I like the visual of it on the stage before I am there…a visual presence and a sense of anticipation/anxiety. This acts as both a multi mic with effects/vocoders whatever on each mic, but also an Arduino based velocity sensitive midi trigger. This device came out of the desire to make drum beats while playing guitar (something I plan to tour with/as eventually), except now I can’t remember how to play guitar, haha. The headgear is the device that allows me to do all of my ambient overtones and more organic beatboxing on top of other rhythms.

Finally the large footpedal that has been with me from the beginning is a very strong reliable usb/midi pedal footboard with 16 buttons that controls all of my channel switching in Ableton/Reason. I use this for all sorts of things.

Check out an Author & Punisher live set during June Gloom at Che Cafe June 26th [special guest: Justin Bartlett]
be prepared for maximum volume which, in the words of our ancestors, yields maximum results

Author & Punisher

April 19, 2010

I got a chance to experience an Author & Punisher live set
thanks to Vacation Vinyl for hosting phenomenal in-stores
It’s always refreshing to have sound waves shake your bones
look for an interview with Author & Punisher’s Tristan Shone on Orbiter soon
we will discuss unconventional and innovative techniques in audio engineering

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“So far the songs and sound has taken a path that I didn’t really expect. It’s like by putting yourself in a different configuration, you automatically force yourself to do something different. Unlike guitar stuff where you can kind of riff in your head then translate, I really write when I’m on the setup…like full body convulsions.”
– Tristan Shone

ODAWAS

April 4, 2010

a few years ago my friend Jimmy took me to a show here in Silver Lake, saying, “You’ve got to come see this band Odawas.” I went to the show with no expectations as I had no previous knowledge of the group. Michael Tapscott on guitar began singing this atmospheric higher range as Isaac Edwards filled the room with thick synth lines that reverberated in my chest. Needless to say a huge smile came to my face, I was so excited to hear these sounds! For me it was as though Neil Young and Stars of the Lid were up there improvising magic together. After the show I immediately approached the gentleman from Odawas with a string of curious questions. We ended up all hanging out after the show and talking about music. I picked up every record they had to really immerse myself in their creative work.

When Jimmy informed me that Odawas was going to be touring back through LA, I knew I had to interview them. I had come to find that both Michael and Isaac were drastically different from one another. I thought it would be interesting to separate them for their interviews and yet ask each of them the same exact questions. Here is what transpired:

Masonic: Liquid Interface

December 22, 2009

I recently had the pleasure of hearing composer Mason Bates with the LA Philharmonic at the Disney Concert Hall, performing his Liquid Interface. Immediately intrigued to see a laptop and electronic sampler amongst the ensemble, I listened as his subtle atmospherics and delicately placed rhythm patterns echoed alongside the symphony. Here is an excerpt from our dialogue:

ORBITER SIGNAL: You have developed a synthesis between your classical and electronic sentiments. What is the initial inspiration that compels you to explore the dynamic between these seemingly counterintuitive modes?

MASON BATES: Electronica is unique in popular music in its non-vocal nature. With no lyrics or vocal line to guide the ear, other musical elements elevate in importance. The resulting ear-tingling textures, intricate rhythms, and beautiful harmonies of electronica make it well-suited to the ears of classical audiences. And electronics fans, being drawn to exotic sonorities and complicated rhythmic structures, show a real curiosity for classical music. It’s that pregnant musical possibility that intrigues me compositionally.

ORBITER SIGNAL: The live orchestra context comments heavily on how people perceive your work. In contrast, do you feel your recorded material resonates more or less effectively in conveying your intent to the listener without the artifice of the symphony accompaniment?

MASON BATES: My symphonic music always works best in its intended space – the concert hall. But I do fantasize about recording this music, because it would reach a wider audience. There is always something lost when live music gets squeezed onto a CD, but the tradeoff is that many more people can encounter the music as a recorded medium.

ORBITER SIGNAL: Simultaneously a classical composer and progressive experimentalist, you have positioned your self in a precarious sociopolitical climate. How do you navigate this critical landscape?

MASON BATES: All that I can do is attempt to manage expectations. If a symphony’s marketing team gets overexcited and starts using words like ‘club’ or ‘dance music,’ the concert piece that ultimately gets played will be heard with all the wrong preparation. So I am careful to emphasize my interest in the ambient and IDM electronica worlds, which have a far less commercial connotation.

ORBITER SIGNAL: Integrated within your compositions Digital Interface and Music From Underground Spaces are the sampled organic tones of natural phenomena like wind, water, and earthquakes. In what way do these audio samples affect the emotional equilibrium of the piece?

MASON BATES: A theatrical moment is one the greatest possibilities a composer has inside the concert hall. Suddenly taking the listener to Antarctica to hear glaciers caving, or into the realm of tectonic plates with earthquake recordings, can shake up the listener’s reality in a unique way. So I love the possibilities of natural sounds, but also of *any* spectacular sound. In “The B-Sides,” I feature recordings of astronauts in the middle movement.

ORBITER SIGNAL: Lastly, how does your music reflect your worldview?

MASON BATES: I did not grow up in a highly musical environment. This has made me want to communicate in a way that is both fresh and inevitable.

Bates performing with The SF Symphony in The B-Sides

Bates performing with The SF Symphony in The B-Sides

to review further: masonicelectronica.com

Kreng

November 3, 2009

It pleases me to bring you excerpts from a conversation with Kreng, a contemporary sound artist from Belgium. Kreng’s recent work on L’Autopsie Phénoménale de Dieu has been one of great intrigue and fascination for me. I hope you can find our dialogue to be insightful to some respect:

ORBITER SIGNAL: You endorse a quote: “Noise lost the power to insult. Silence hasn’t.” In regards to this, I am immediately brought to recall a moment during L’Autopsie Phenomenale de Dieu when the sparse elements of delicate drums and a hushed voice crying open up into a brief silence. It is during this suspended chasm that the listener feels the immense weight captured in the crushing enormity of visceral cinematic realism. Can you address your feelings on the effective use of a minimalist approach with sound?

KRENG: I have noticed that silence, in contrast to ‘noise,’ is uplifting. We’re bombarded with noise the whole time: traffic sounds, blaring radios, people talking, cell-phones ringing, etc… We have become capable of blocking sound out. Silence on the other hand has become a rare item. There’s no silence to be found in a normal person’s daily life. Therefore silence feels new, unique & out of this world.
Silence has no information. In a time where there’s too much information silence has a lot to say for itself. One just needs to listen…
I was firmly struck by silence while I was listening to a recording of Morton Feldman’s Rothko Chapel. The piece consists out of singular blocks of sound separated by silences. What you actually listen to is the silence. The silence is disrupted by sound but when the sound ends the exaltation resumes. During the silences one reaches upwards, becomes curious to how the piece will continue.
When I am confronted with a noise-piece my body tends to cramp together & hunch down. Silence makes me arch my back, I move upwards & I feel my senses opening up. It would be great if people listening to my music would have the same feeling. One can only guess….I do like well-structured noise but it’s not something I wish to communicate.

ORBITER SIGNAL: You have a seamless way of incorporating found sound and field recordings into your mixes, how critical are these audio samples to your sense of musical inspiration?

KRENG: I do use field recordings & found sounds, but not as much as you would think. The basic components of my compositions are very well-chosen samples. I try to look for a certain texture that refers to a time-frame, a cultural entity, a state of mind, a technical environment. It’s important to sample a blues-guitar from a 78RPM record. Don’t try to record it yourself. It’s never say the same thing…. By combining all these different samples from various time-frames & technologies of recording you can create a environment that triggers a lot of associations in the listener’s mind. It’s not something new, you just haven’t heard it this way yet.
I also like to sample ’silence:’ static, hiss, silent parts of vinyl, the spaces between words, etc… That way I have collected a lot of surface noise that I use as the basis for a lot of my pieces. For example: the girl crying on the Chopin piece. This used to be a dictaphone-tape from an actress reading a text in a car while it was raining on the car’s roof. I told her to cry. Later I removed all the words & I was left with these beautiful sounds of a sobbing woman in a locked environment….

ORBITER SIGNAL: In what regard do you feel your record has been successful in conveying your own philosophical point of view?

KRENG: I don’t want it be easy. Not for me and not for the listener. It’s important that there’s an effort to be made. On both sides.
It needs to communicate. It cannot be a one direction consumption thing.
I had nothing predetermined when I started working on the record. Basically it’s a compilation of work that I’ve done over the last 5 years for theatre. The theatre-pieces all have their own way of saying things, so the music had to serve that. The music used to have a functional character in the theatre. For the record it’s a different affair. On the record the music needed to become autonomous. I had to shorten certain things, make it more exciting. I’ve tried to make the sounds tell a story without the narrative of any visual input. This was quite a challenge for me & I hope I succeeded in this difficult metamorphosis of my music. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder…. so I can only hope for it to work on this level…

ORBITER SIGNAL: Lastly, if one were to be witness to the autopsy of God, what would one find?

KRENG: the same as what one would find when he witnessed his own autopsy: A bag of skin, containing a lot of stuff we can’t figure out.

Image courtesy of Kreng:

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Image of the extremely rare green vinyl pressing of L’Autopsie Phénoménale de Dieu:

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for more background information regarding Kreng research:
http://www.myspace.com/krengmusic